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| there was never 14 men on the the field today. duffs threw the substitute card onto the floor and ran onto the field whilst jock was coming off and then the mc came onto the field to tell the ref and he sent duffs off because he should have never been on the field in the first place and brought jock back on
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| Someone tell the Whitehaven fans on their board they can't have a rematch. 
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| Just go and wish them luck in their quest for relegation....******
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| These MC's are becoming a thorough nuisance! He made PR change from his yellow 'Trainer' shirt to a blue' Water Carrier' one. PR ran onto the pitch, with water and was promptly told by the ref that he had to put the yellow one back on!
I know that the water carriers can be a thorough nuisance, but with today's high temperatures, I thought it harsh that Mr Halloran retricted both teams to just one water carrier in the second half. That's why ours got red carded - in addition to Duffy.
Talking of this ref, it's interesting how he kept doing us for crossing when we were passing behind the dummy runner. And how, every time the crowd shouted 'forward', the ref obliged. We should remember that if he comes to the LSV.
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| Quote Alan="Alan"These MC's are becoming a thorough nuisance! He made PR change from his yellow 'Trainer' shirt to a blue' Water Carrier' one. PR ran onto the pitch, with water and was promptly told by the ref that he had to put the yellow one back on!
I know that the water carriers can be a thorough nuisance, but with today's high temperatures, I thought it harsh that Mr Halloran retricted both teams to just one water carrier in the second half. That's why ours got red carded - in addition to Duffy.
Talking of this ref, it's interesting how he kept doing us for crossing when we were passing behind the dummy runner. And how, every time the crowd shouted 'forward', the ref obliged. We should remember that if he comes to the LSV.'"
think you will find that the one sent off was a water carrier with a blue top on (same as the leigh shirt ) and rightly so as he looked liked
one of your players
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| In the first half Rowley had a blur top on and was told by the ref to leave the field and change it.........it was Shaun who was sent off in the 2nd half cos he come onto the pitch while Rowley was already on.
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| Quote haven4ever="haven4ever"think you will find that the one sent off was a water carrier with a blue top on (same as the leigh shirt ) and rightly so as he looked liked
one of your players'"
The MC made Rowley change into a blue shirt. The ref told him to put the yellow one back on. The ref laid down the law on water carriers, before the start of the second half, so the Leigh lad clearly infringed. My point is that he should have tolerated the water carriers - from both teams - in the second half, given the conditions.
I can understand the frustrations of players, who seem to be subjected to inconsistent referees each week. What Halloran deemed to be 'crossing' hasn't been considered to be 'crossing' by other Championship refs. we have had. (What about the one he gave when the 'Haven full back ran the ball out in the second half? His one team mate was done for obstructing the six Leigh chasers! Petty in the extreme!)
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| Quote Alan="Alan"The MC made Rowley change into a blue shirt. The ref told him to put the yellow one back on. The ref laid down the law on water carriers, before the start of the second half, so the Leigh lad clearly infringed. My point is that he should have tolerated the water carriers - from both teams - in the second half, given the conditions.
I can understand the frustrations of players, who seem to be subjected to inconsistent referees each week. What Halloran deemed to be 'crossing' hasn't been considered to be 'crossing' by other Championship refs. we have had. (What about the one he gave when the 'Haven full back ran the ball out in the second half? His one team mate was done for obstructing the six Leigh chasers! Petty in the extreme!)'"
That was for Jackson taking out Leuluai, I think.
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| The rules are pretty clear on water carriers. They are only permitted on after a try or when play has stopped for injuries. If a player wishes to have water then they are free to go to the sideline and receive water at any other time.
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| Quote billyfax="billyfax"The rules are pretty clear on water carriers. They are only permitted on after a try or when play has stopped for injuries. If a player wishes to have water then they are free to go to the sideline and receive water at any other time.'"
But when temperatures are as hot as they are there needs to be some lenience. He let Whitehaven have more than one waterboy on during the second half whilst Leigh were restricted to one. There needs to be consistency.
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| WATER CARRIER (BLUE TOP)
− =#FF0000Two water carriers are permitted to enter the field of play in the following circumstances:
(i) after a try has been scored
(ii) after the referee has stopped play for an injury
− They must carry an approved water carrying device or unit and must leave the field before
play has recommenced.
− They must enter and leave the field as quickly as possible (i.e. running).
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| anyway back to the topic
Just watched the game again and there were only 13 Leigh players on the field on play when the try was scoredor even when the ball was diclodged/lost Duffs had replaced McConnel, the 'mix up' came some minutes before when Duffy was sent to the sidelines to tell the 4th official he was coming on my 'action' shows Duffs going to the sidelines but unfortunately goes out of shot, he then runs back on play goes from a scrum through a couple of tackles a penalty another couple of tackles and then the try.
More 'light' may be shone when I watch the footage off my second camera shooting 'Long' attached to the main camera.
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