Season's not over but it's a long way back now.

Ah Van, what a shocker.

An all round dumb performance with ball in hand, dropped way too much ball which probably cost us.

He appears to be another complete dud. Dare I say it.

Perhaps his theme tune should be knock knock knocking on ah vens door.

I think calling him a dud is a step to far.

He seems a completely different player in dry/warmer conditions but if he can't get his head around the british weather he could be a cause for concern.

I think more than halfway through the season with umpteen games under his belt then it is perfectly fine to offer that opinion. He has done some nice work for us, but I suspect he has cost us more with his errors than he has earnt with his positive contributions.

I wouldn't keep ah van with him taking up a quota spot. No doubt he will get another contract mind. Just plain dumb rugby all second half. Langley didn't seem o have a clue half the time. I wouldn't say it was that bad a performance, just this was a game we really needed to win and had enough chances to.

Not happy with rhinos up next.

22 points. That's how many we squandered today. 2 missed kicks by Ah Van and 3 bombed tries.

Not the best performance today, a win would have made a top 8 finish an easier prospect. It's still possible but it's going to be up hill work til the end of the season

How many points did we drop on the floor today?

The real battle was down the middle though. Hull got the quick play the balls and made metres for fun. In defence they were up in face before we knew what to do with the ball and won the collision time and again. Not only that but when we did win the collision it seemed to take and age for our players to get to their feet and actually play it. Prime example of he the body language gave them away was after Herbert's 40-20 in the first half. The players just strolled up to the scrum. You want to see them getting the scrum formed to get the clock stopped. From the body language of the players you'd think it was Hull who were chasing the game at that point.

We were second best right from the kick off today.

Also sick of Herbert being the scapegoat. He did well behind a beaten pack today. That cross field kick that Royston scored off in the first half was a thing of beauty. But let's drop the player that's created the most trys in the team.

Pathetic performance, biggest game of season so farand we just didn't look motivated. Ah Van had a shocker but Langley was worse. All Hull had to do was put a sidestep on and he missed, He just ran at the markers all game. And Potter played him for full 80!!! Addy is not a hooker. Looked good going forward, but he's not a hooker. Very veyr disappointing performace. Just no intensity at all

We won't make the playoffs, we don't deserve to make the playoffs, and if by some small miracle we [idid[/i happen to make the playoffs, all we would do is go on to get soundly humiliated in the elimination match we took part in.

On a day when we had such an important game, they came out absolutely clueless and got progressively worse. Hull were poor today and yet still managed to double our score. We're an embarrassment, and have been for years now.

Hull simply wanted the points more than we did today. They put in more energy and got the points that they deserved. We were lethargic and made far too many errors and made poor decisions.

Our pack was well beaten and Hull continually manage to turn us over in the tackle. Not helped by Bentham's reluctance to penalise holding down.

Ah Van had a shocker again, if Potter is going to be consistent he shouldn't be in the side next week. His form has dropped alarmingly, you have to wonder if he expects to be here next year? Some of the defence was shocking, the tries by Westerman and I think Moa were particularly weak.

Disappointing drop in performance levels against what was a fairly ordinary Hull side.