Don't know if anyone else saw it but there was a report on Sky Sports News, towards the end of the hour for anyone wanting to see it later, about the Crusaders "unpopular" move to Wrexham. They interviewed a couple of local residents who couldn't name a rugby league player and basically had no idea about the game. They also interviewed a chap in a Widnes hat who basically talked us up saying how he hoped we were given the chance to prove ourselves in the league. Derek Twigg was then interviewed at the Stobart saying how he felt that the move was a face saving operation by the RFL and he reiterated what he wrote in the paper a couple of weeks back. They then showed a table of average atendance from last year with Celtic second bottom to Harlequins and then showed we had a higher attendance than both and also intimated at our superior season ticket holder number.

All in all a report that showed the Vikings in a good light, although Twigg could be seen as being bitter and maybe shouldn't have hit out in the manner he is. I also think they said there would be an interview with Dick Lewis later on so that should be interesting viewing.

Does anyone else think that if Crusaders had been relegated, they probably wouldn't have had to move as they wouldn't be having to pay SL costs?

Well done twiggy and it was great to see rfl looking more and more a joke.Wrexham need some backing as their club in dire straits aswell.They cant support crusaders forever. The rfl if have any sence will allow some clubs in from the championship, who have a decent fan base.We will also double our fans if get in superleague.

I think that's probably true Dors. And that the RFL are despertaly trying to make the club work at the top level. I'm inclined to agree with Twiggy that the RFL are just desperatly trying to save their face and doing anything to try and claim the club as a success. Nothing has really been said about the visa fiasco and they are doing everything they can to put a positive spin on the shambles. They will be dead and buried within two years. The new welsh team will get fastracked to Super dooper League and the whole thing starts again.

The whole thing stinks.

It's an argument I made on the TotalRL forum. Everyone seems to think that this is a case of SL or bust for Crusaders but I actually think there is a lot to be said for doing what Gateshead did and repositioning themselves.
As you said there are far less costs incurred within the Championship competitions.

Of course the Expansionistas wouldn't hear of it...without SL Celtic wouldn't have stood a chance.. so they are already writing off this South Wales experiment I guess.

also some interesting comments here from Leighton Samuels
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Of course this would have meant the SL clubs forgoing some of their money to support this new team. How up for expansion would those people on the VT be if it meant their teams donating £200k to support their 'dream'?

Personally I think they should be lobbying their clubs now to hand over some cash to the new Wrexham experiment if they want to walk the walk instead of talking the talk.

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Quote J20="J20"Clip here... www.skysports.com/video/inline/0 ... 68,00.html'" All back to square one with the fan base as well. I wonder how the players/coaches feel knowing they have to either move or change their whole commuting schedule? They'll have probably have had another non-existent or disjointed off season and will probably end up getting spanked every other weekend. A crowd puller as we saw last season If the powers that be REALLY want this to work then they ('saders) need another 3 year license and it should be announced NOW. Plus an admission that it was a mess but here is why we think it'll work.

Quote J20="J20"Clip here... www.skysports.com/video/inline/0 ... 68,00.html'" All back to square one with the fan base as well. I wonder how the players/coaches feel knowing they have to either move or change their whole commuting schedule? They'll have probably have had another non-existent or disjointed off season and will probably end up getting spanked every other weekend. A crowd puller as we saw last season If the powers that be REALLY want this to work then they ('saders) need another 3 year license and it should be announced NOW. Plus an admission that it was a mess but here is why we think it'll work.

If Wrexham hadn't come in they wouldn't have been relegated....they would have folded, simple as. Anyone reckon they already have a guarantee for 2012 already. I certainly wouldn't buy something with only two years of SL left and the likelihood of going back to the championship for three years

I keep wondering if it's a PR stunt by Wrexham FC and they're just going to let Crusaders fold or fall by the way side. But it's expensive PR if it is!

I have to say I had to laugh when he asked Dale Winton who is favourite player was.

That fan they asked as well did a decent job fighting our corner.

It doesn't seem good PR to buy a club and run them into a ground, to me.

BRING ON THE WALL!