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| Quote Big Dave T="Big Dave T"www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/news/WIND-FARM-GIANT-PICKS-HULL/article-3123421-detail/article.html
10000 new jobs for Hull. Bit of good news at last. Lets hope some specialist transferable skills training can be offered to get the out of work caravan, council etc etc workers the jobs.'"
I wish it was but read it again mate
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| Brilliant news for the region.
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| Quote EAST HULL RED="EAST HULL RED"Quote EAST HULL RED="Big Dave T"www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/news/WIND-FARM-GIANT-PICKS-HULL/article-3123421-detail/article.html
10000 new jobs for Hull. Bit of good news at last. Lets hope some specialist transferable skills training can be offered to get the out of work caravan, council etc etc workers the jobs.'"
I wish it was but read it again mate'"
Good news indeed and a much needed boost for the region. However I must say the journalism is poor, the jobs for Hull will be around 700 to 800 the other jobs will be from the knock on work such as installation, service engineers etc which no doubt will mean a few more jobs within the region but many will most likely be national across the continent too.
Still good news however much the HDM has sensationalised it
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| It is not 10,000 jobs for Hull. misleading headlines yet again.
The actual manufacturing facility will generate a few hundred at most.
the jobs created are in fact all going to be payed for by all of us in massivly increased fuel bills and taxes.
The companies involved in manufacturing the turbines are all european, these companies are receiving MASSIVE grants (our taxes) from the UK government to produce these turbines, hence all the money is leaving these shores.
The power companies are forced by the government to purchase a percentage of their power from so called 'green' energy sources at exhorbitant rates, these costs again are passed onto us.
this whole thing is a myth!!
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| Quote VerbalKint="VerbalKint"The power companies are forced by the government to purchase a percentage of their power from so called 'green' energy sources at exhorbitant rates, these costs again are passed onto us.'"
The energy sources [iare[/i green. Whether they're efficient enough is another question.
Quote VerbalKint="VerbalKint"this whole thing is a myth!!'"
Nah - it's deffo happening. 
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| Quote VerbalKint="VerbalKint"It is not 10,000 jobs for Hull. misleading headlines yet again.
The actual manufacturing facility will generate a few hundred at most.
the jobs created are in fact all going to be payed for by all of us in massivly increased fuel bills and taxes.
The companies involved in manufacturing the turbines are all european, these companies are receiving MASSIVE grants (our taxes) from the UK government to produce these turbines, hence all the money is leaving these shores.
The power companies are forced by the government to purchase a percentage of their power from so called 'green' energy sources at exhorbitant rates, these costs again are passed onto us.
this whole thing is a myth!!'"
Whilst I actually agree with the gist of your point in regard to renewable energy cost the fact is that the Government has provided incentive for companies to invest in UK infrastructure. It remains good news for the region because if it hadn't been Hull it would have been somewhere else and you would still have been paying more for your energy, just not seeing the new jobs benefiting the local economy. If you want to have a real carp about misplaced taxpayers money look more towards the billions of UK taxpayers cash wasted by unelected eurocrats over in Brussels. At least this extra money we're paying is creating new business.
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| the myth is that thousands of turbines will solve our energy needs, they wont.
My point was every KW of green energy is costing us upto 6 times more than regular. the power companies are forced to buy green energy and the costs are passed onto us.
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| Quote Staffs FC="Staffs FC"Whilst I actually agree with the gist of your point in regard to renewable energy cost the fact is that the Government has provided incentive for companies to invest in UK infrastructure. It remains good news for the region because if it hadn't been Hull it would have been somewhere else and you would still have been paying more for your energy, just not seeing the new jobs benefiting the local economy. If you want to have a real carp about misplaced taxpayers money look more towards the billions of UK taxpayers cash wasted by unelected eurocrats over in Brussels. At least this extra money we're paying is creating new business.'"
agree, it will have a good knock on effect to other business's in the area. But funding jobs through grants and taxes just does not work, its basic economics, one of the main reasons the economy is in such a state is the massively increased public sector and the ever deminishing private sector. less and less people paying the taxes to pay for government spending.
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| Quote VerbalKint="VerbalKint"agree, it will have a good knock on effect to other business's in the area. But funding jobs through grants and taxes just does not work, its basic economics, one of the main reasons the economy is in such a state is the massively increased public sector and the ever deminishing private sector. less and less people paying the taxes to pay for government spending.'"
Again I agree with you. But on this occasion the incentives are for a private (albeit German) company to invest in the UK. You are preaching to the converted when suggesting that it will be the private sector, as ever, that turns around the economy.
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| Quote VerbalKint="VerbalKint"the myth is that thousands of turbines will solve our energy needs, they wont.'"
Not many people actually believe that. Unfortunately the wind power lobby has been very successful in convincing policy-makers that they have the best short-term solution.
Quote VerbalKint="VerbalKint"My point was every KW of green energy is costing us upto 6 times more than regular. the power companies are forced to buy green energy and the costs are passed onto us.'"
I don't have a problem with the move to renewables - it makes sense on a number of levels. It's not being handled well though.
The costs [ishould[/i eventually come down once more efficient technologies are adopted.
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| Quote Staffs FC="Staffs FC"You are preaching to the converted when suggesting that it will be the private sector, as ever, that turns around the economy.'"
Actually it'll be, as ever, the private and public sectors working together that will turn around the economy. Neither works well in isolation.
Not forgetting that it was the private sector that torpedoed the economy in the first place. 
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